What is the mystery of Babylon Revelations 17

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Permalink Reply by john hopkins on October 27, 2009 at 11:16pm

All of Christianity have moved into Babylonian church which is the church that seeks to please the flelsh and not the spirit. We have moved away from the Church of Acts and we have replaced the Bible with our own doctrine. It is important therefore to pray for the church that the body may be one again.

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Permalink Reply by Pharisee on October 28, 2009 at 11:07am

It's important to understand that there are two elements to the final anti-Christ or beast system.
Revelation 17 is describing the fall of the harlot one world church while Revelation 18 is describing the fall of the political/ economic power that is Babylon the great.
The division is also seen in Revelation 13 with the first and second beast. (the second beast has two horns like a lamb; mimicking the lamb of God) Also notice in revelation 17 that the harlot rides the beast in her world domination.
To put this in it's proper context we have a world power that dominates all facets of human existence. This is in it's totality is the anti-Christ world power and beast system we will see when it arises in it's fullness. I might add if you want to dig all the groundwork is being laid now, you don't have to look far to see who the final players will be, but one of them is hidden in the shadows more then any other, and will indeed appear as a lamb even though she's a harlot.

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Permalink Reply by deniseforte on October 28, 2009 at 11:19am

what you said makes a lot of sense but i m confused about you saying that "the fall of the harlot one world church"
i thought at the end it will be a form of one world government, and one world religion.

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Permalink Reply by Pharisee on October 28, 2009 at 2:34pm

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Rev 16:13 (KJV)

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Rev 19:20 (KJV)

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Rev 20:10 (KJV)

Three references separate from the "beast rising out of the sea" (Rev 13:1) and the "second beast rising out of the earth" (Rev 13:11) indicate two anti-Christ type leaders who work together. In Revelation 17:16-17 we see ("the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire") The beast that the woman rode upon turns on her and claims the final power for himself, this is the final rise of Anti-Christ, and most vivid picture of his ruthlessness, that he turns on the very false prophet (leader of the one world church) that formerly promoted him to be worshiped openly. (Rev 13:12-14)

"i thought at the end it will be a form of one world government, and one world religion."

Absolutely correct assumption, however the two have their own leader, and the religious leader will "exercise all the power of the first beast" Rev 13:12 The false prophet is the harlot who rides the scarlet colored beast you see in revelation 17, that's a church seated atop a governmental monster with seven heads and ten horns.
7 heads = total world leadership and that's the authority of the first beast (7 heads are seven hills or mountains [7 continents] global governance Rev 17:9, and the ten horns are ten kingdoms or kings; (Rev 17:16) interestingly the world is already divided into ten regions in international treaties and the language used to describe them? you guessed it -KINGDOMS!)

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Permalink Reply by Rev Larry Kay Ret. on October 29, 2009 at 12:58am

I good study of rev.17,clearly points to the Vatican, you must read the entire chapter to get a clear understanding

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Permalink Reply by Mark Esguerra on October 29, 2009 at 4:58am

uuuuhhhmmm why it will be New York?
I think the mystery babylon is the Roman Catholic church.

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Permalink Reply by Mark Esguerra on October 29, 2009 at 5:04am

The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet , and was glittering with gold, precious stones.
In her hand, filled with abominable and the filth of her adulteries.
Rev 17:4

see the Purple and scarlet in their dres? And the golden necklace ?

Mystery Babylon is the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH

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Permalink Reply by deniseforte on October 29, 2009 at 8:08am

Mark Esguerra
some people beleive that the mystery of babylon is America/New York City. it's a lot of youtube videos about it.
So my christian friends..........Does God want us to know the truth about the mystery of babylon.
Someone told me i should read my bible, but there are things i have to go to someone with knowledge to help me with things that i dont understand.
So who am i suppose to go to when everyone is giving me a different answer.

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Permalink Reply by Pharisee on October 29, 2009 at 8:59am

The future Babylonian empire is not a single entity, the idea that the Vatican has a military force is absurd, and politically they're not that strong either. There is no single entity that's going to be the do all end all, there will be two working together as the Bible clearly shows. One is a fabulous economic consumer as we see in Revelation 18, and again how is the Vatican a deep water port as is described there referring to the "great city?" It's land locked. Two strikes against a singular anti-Christ theory, and the nails in the coffin are the scriptures I quoted earlier.
Clearly there will be a governing political/military entity that no one can "make war" with, and there will be a church leader who points to that "beast" to hold it up as God so that men will worship it.
This is not difficult stuff, we see church and state united in absolute power yet still separate from each other. That much is very clear.

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Permalink Reply by Ashlee on November 4, 2009 at 9:49pm

I have heard so many different things from different people, and am curious with others views......will there actually be a "beast" like you would see in the movies.....or is the "beast" just symbolic for the ant-christ/false prophet church? As my understanding there will be a one world government and church whos beast will be controling it and force people to worship him and his church.

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Permalink Reply by Tuns on November 8, 2009 at 10:11pm

About Rev.17 - The activity of Satan and the evils been commited.

In the last day Satan will use some Girls/women(Who don`t follow God`s principle) as a tool to destroy many homes.

-Girls/women(harlot) that are been control by Satan, selling/useless their sexual part with people(Rev.17:15)
-Satan will use these Girls/women(harlot). And their sexual part, will serve as Satan`s tool.(Rev.18:7-9)

Time of Sodom and Gomorrah as example(Jude 6:7)


Rev. 18:20（As for you the faithful be glad）

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Permalink Reply by Ashlee on November 9, 2009 at 10:26pm

He has already used women for years...... Men also.

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